The Pitters' Place

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Damn, you got me.

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If you thought that was boring, you should watch Boyhood. Oh my God. That might have been the worst thing I have ever seen. It's given boring movies entirely new standards to aspire to.

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In the midst of a society in which white people controlled the power structures, they simply reinforced the prejudices of the powerful and demonized and subjugated a powerless underclass, all the while saying "but we're not racist, we make fun of everyone!" But in the article I linked to,...

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Apparently, the paper is actually pretty left wing and pro-immigrant. Accusations of racism come from people who have been posting images of cartoons without the necessary context. The only thing about the paper's politics that a lefty should have trouble with are its sexual politics. The staff are...

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Well, I don't think imagining what things would be like in some hypothetical counterfactual world where Cosby has been innocent all along is productive or healthy either, I was just directly responding to what was in the OP and and then I got into an argument and tried to defend myself. It's not as ...

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mkay well nice graph I guess but as I said, I'm following a much broader principle I try to take very seriously which essentially says that you shouldn't make sweeping character judgments on someone who is going through an experience, especially an acutely negative one, radically different from anyt...

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If, say, during the lead-up to the trial over Trayvon Martin's killing, George Zimmerman started making jokes about 'Hey, whoops, careful black kids, I might murder you!', would you have considered it in poor taste? He was eventually acquitted of any charges, after all. Yeah. Although that's not a ...

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Uh-huh.

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I think I was the first to make a rape joke in Castor's Gogo thread, and I was making light of Gogo's nonsense, not making light of rape or rape victims. I know. My point was that I would have seen Cosby's comment as a parallel to that, if he was innocent - he would have been making light of the ab...

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How ironic. An article that says "We need to understand context", yet reprints a cover of Charlie Hebdo without context, in order to accuse them of racism or islamophobia. I didn't read the article myself, but googled about the context. Conclusion: Charlie Hebdo was not mocking the Boko H...

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This is the only good article I have read so far on this whole mess. It backs up many of the things others have been saying here.

http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/23136" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Who the fuck are these two? I've never heard of them before in my life.

Wait, does that mean I'm unmanly?

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If there's one group of people in this society who need to be taken down a peg, it's suicidal trans people.

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phe_de wrote:
Derived Absurdity wrote:Muslims have been the primary targets of Empire for the last hundred years at least, Hindus have not.
Wow. Guess I must have lived in a parallel universe. In my universe, India was a British colony for centuries.

Yes, I know about that. Keyword is primary.

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They won't consider the fact that a vulgar/blasphemous drawing of Christian prophets has a completely different meaning because Christianity is a pretty fundamental pillar of the Western empire...Christians have the power. And what about Hindus? Are they more powerful than Muslims? [none] Muslims h...

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Gendo wrote:Roseanne is one of the all-time great sitcoms.

And my "cut a little slack" comment was meant as a somewhat agreement with you.

Ok cool. I like it when people agree with me.

Netflix put up the first fifty episodes of Roseanne recently. Probably the greatest thing it's ever done.

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I know, I have no problem within someone tactfully informing him that his comment is silly, but saying he's a horrible person would be IMO unwarranted and underlies an attitude I really dislike. I kind of liked his show when I was a kid, but Roseanne has always been better. Roseanne fucking rocked. ...

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I agree it would have been dumb but that's quite a ways away from making him an "absolute horrible human being". I don't know how I would react to being falsely accused of rape by at least thirty different people, and neither do you, and I can't imagine what that could possibly be like, so...

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I thought that it's been well-established that context means everything. The only jokes I saw on that thread was Troy's "that rapist" comment, and OGL's response with a picture of guy sweating. This is a somewhat private discussion among friends, among people who have firmly established t...

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People are making rape jokes on this board about five threads down after gogo falsely accused OGL of rape, so take it up with all those people. People on this board make rape jokes all the time.

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It's been at least thirty women so far, not fifteen.

It's not a horrid thing to do if he's innocent. If he's guilty then obviously it would be horrid. But if he's innocent of all the charges then joking about the situation is perfectly fine. But he's almost certainly not.

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We should do neither.

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I don't understand how this makes him a horrible human being.

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What the fuck? Why have I not seen this movie?

GO SEE IT. NOW.

No one deserves to go through life without having seen The Room. No one.

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The AV Club recently interviewed Tommy Wiseau, and it... just... I don't know.

http://www.avclub.com/article/tommy-wis ... tco-213204

Nothing I say here will be satisfactory. You just need to read it.

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^ This comment is gross. First of all, this is not a direct attack on free speech, this is a direct attack on hate speech, bordering on racist propaganda. Oh, well that's alright then. Murder away, murderers. Just make sure to murder the right cartoonists! You, sir, are a fucking idiot. Lol, I was ...

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http://www.juancole.com/2015/01/sharpening-contradictions-satirists.html This article makes the point that the terrorists may not have been motivated by attacking free speech or being offended by the drawings per se , but instead by a hope that the attack would provoke an overreaction and intensify...

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I was confused because the last paragraph seemed to be entirely disconnected from the previous ones. In the first few you seemed to be justifying caricaturing Muslims because they just go around blowing up buildings and in the last you seemed to be saying the exact opposite, even though you were fra...

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I don't think it's all that complex as to the reasons behind why one is found to be funny and the other is not even though they are similar situations. Blacks and Jews are not going around blowing up buildings and killing thousands of people. Fanatic Muslims are. And that is why one is found funny ...

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since I consider the "sacredness" (forgive me) of free speech to be axiomatically true. Well, I simply don't. I guess that's a fundamental difference of values which will impede an agreement between us on this. Not only do I think restricting the freedom of speech of certain groups to say...

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I agree with Castor, I am correct.

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since I consider the "sacredness" (forgive me) of free speech to be axiomatically true. Well, I simply don't. I guess that's a fundamental difference of values which will impede an agreement between us on this. Not only do I think restricting the freedom of speech of certain groups to say...

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You're confusing fundamental differences in beliefs about the political organization of society—for example, which values we prefer in a given hierarchy of values—with, basically, ignorance. No, I don't think I am. What I am accusing people of is ignorance of how "free speech" as an abstr...

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And yet, only the victim's action has changed. Both sets of actions, however—getting drunk and publishing cartoons—are actions that people in a free society ought to be able to engage in without fear of reprisal. No. No, they shouldn't. Promoting hate speech against a class of people which is alrea...

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What I think he's saying is: "[Insult your position. Follow up by describing my position by its most desirable elements, implying that you and your vision of society are opposed to these elements.]" You know, like an ideologue. [roll] If you want to specifically lay out your problems with...

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Yes, if both societies have unequal distributions of power between classes of people. This should be self-evident.

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And yet, only the victim's action has changed. Both sets of actions, however—getting drunk and publishing cartoons—are actions that people in a free society ought to be able to engage in without fear of reprisal. No. No, they're not. Promoting hate speech against a class of people which is already ...

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Inane, power-serving nonsense. I'd rather live in a society that was actually civilized and which protects marginalized groups instead of attacks them.

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^ This comment is gross. First of all, this is not a direct attack on free speech, this is a direct attack on hate speech, bordering on racist propaganda. The discrimination and oppression Muslims face in countries like France is intense. Their unemployment rate in France specifically is five percen...

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Derived Absurdity wrote:we should invite her, this place is way too friendly as it is. It's sickening.

Sickening I say!!!

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I got raped by a bartender once.

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I used to like her a lot - we're still friends on FB because I daren't unfriend her. But, y'know, she crossed me once so now she's dead to me [none] I think this is my cue to say something ironically sexist right now. (I couldn't think of anything funny so I just went with being ironically self-ref...

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we should invite her, this place is way too friendly as it is. It's sickening.

And I do kind of remember her I think. She seemed to be very pyschologically unstable and have massive self-esteem issues, IIRC. I kind of liked her I think.

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who is chuppah

And I second inviting gogo, he amuses me.

in fact we should invite everyone

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