So, Nigel Farage

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:49 pm

Bruce, like I said. I've experienced that too.

Don't interrupt us while we are talking about football!

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:52 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:
Dr_Liszt wrote:Almost everyone was terrible at that World Cup. I still liked it though. My favorite was Germany-Brazil.
Yes, the Aryan race against the...er...Brazilians. Awkward.

It looked more like the Aryan race against.... no one.

I really wanted Netherlands to reach the final than the damn Argentinians that did nothing in the final.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:53 pm

BruceSmith78 wrote:Let me just tweak my previous example so it doesn't involve personal attacks. Still overly dramatic in comparison to this board, but a more accurate analogy. Imagine you're a British kid in an American school, and in the hallway a bunch of kids around you start loudly carrying on about, "Man, I fucking hate how the British have those fucked up teeth, Queen-loving, buck-tooth having motherfuckers, so fucking nasty." They see you there and don't stop, and when you ask them to stop they just get more obnoxious about it. Are they dicks, or are they entirely justified?

British people did tend to have terrible teeth, in much the same way that the French have an attitude

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:02 pm

I interrupted you because you were talking about "football". It feels wrong just to call it that.

Whitey · Post by **Whitey** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:03 pm

I'd laugh, safe in the knowledge that being British makes me better than those colonial scum.

CashRules · Post by **CashRules** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:04 pm

What makes the French attitude worse is that it's an undeserved attitude, considering that in any type of confrontation 1 American = 4 Brits = 10,000,000,000,000 French.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:04 pm

I noticed how no one answered my question. Concession noted. [/brandon]

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:06 pm

Is Mur French?

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:08 pm

I dunno.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:15 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:
BruceSmith78 wrote:Let me just tweak my previous example so it doesn't involve personal attacks. Still overly dramatic in comparison to this board, but a more accurate analogy. Imagine you're a British kid in an American school, and in the hallway a bunch of kids around you start loudly carrying on about, "Man, I fucking hate how the British have those fucked up teeth, Queen-loving, buck-tooth having motherfuckers, so fucking nasty." They see you there and don't stop, and when you ask them to stop they just get more obnoxious about it. Are they dicks, or are they entirely justified?
British people did tend to have terrible teeth, in much the same way that the French have an attitude

Ok Bruce. Sorry I replied like that.

But as I said. When you are at the top and you look different from the general population, your last name is different from the general population and you live a privileged life. Escaping comments like that is impossible in a polarized country like mine.
I've had girls refusing me a seat because they thought I was American after learning about the Arbenz coup.
I've had people making Italian jokes when they find out my last name. There's been comments about big noses, and guess what? My dad and grandfather have/had big noses. I've had teachers making ugly and dismissive comments to me because they think I'm wealthy.

I really don't know what to tell you. It sounds like "Hey! I'm privileged, please don't make fun of my privilege it makes me feel soooo bad!" It's kind of weird.

So I guess I am going back and tell you that those jokes are more about country rivalry rather than personal attacks. And as far as I know Mur is Haitian-American. I think. I really don't want to piss her off to be honest.

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:23 pm

BruceSmith78 wrote:By saying he has a French attitude, which implies a French attitude is a thing to be ridiculed. Maybe that's not what you meant, but it's how I understood it.

You should have understood it as a joke between friends, playing on the traditional English disdain for all things French.

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:34 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:Also, Giancarlo_carini. He took every loss Italy's soccer team had as a personal insult.

Actually Italy won, it was the 2006 World Cup. He went nuclear because some people suggested that France had been the better team and were unlucky to lose. Typical Italian really.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:36 pm

Of course, how could I possibly have misunderstood your intent? Why would anyone think you might be implying that the French attitude is something to be ridiculed?

*looks at thread and sees a dozen posts ridiculing the French's attitude*

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 7:40 pm

Ptolemy_Banana wrote:
Blade Azaezel wrote:Also, Giancarlo_carini. He took every loss Italy's soccer team had as a personal insult.
Actually Italy won, it was the 2006 World Cup. He went nuclear because some people suggested that France had been the better team and were unlucky to lose. Typical Italian really.

I actually do agree that France was the better team there. Italy had no real rival until Germany at the semi-final. France had a more difficult road. But saying that, I was happy Italy won at that one. They were tied at the final, in my opinion.

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:00 pm

BruceSmith78 wrote:Of course, how could I possibly have misunderstood your intent? Why would anyone think you might be implying that the French attitude is something to be ridiculed?

I don't know why anyone would think that, unless they ignored the context of the conversation where I was making fun of Azzy and the English.

BruceSmith78 wrote:*looks at thread and sees a dozen posts ridiculing the French's attitude*

Which all happened because you objected to the idea of making fun of them. I don't particularly enjoy seeing anti-French jokes myself, but only because they are almost always so tired and unoriginal, not to mention inaccurate.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:07 pm

Essentially it's a play on European stereotypes. I mean, the British don't even have bad teeth anymore, the Germans actually have a sense of humour...the Spanish are lazy though, and the Italians are fascist

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:14 pm

As for the Greeks, well, they invented gayness.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:19 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:Essentially it's a play on European stereotypes. I mean, the British don't even have bad teeth anymore, the Germans actually have a sense of humour...the Spanish are lazy though, and the Italians are fascist

The English do have bad teeth though. They get Perio and stuff for not brushing their teeth. Ew!

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:31 pm

http://www.economist.com/node/15060097

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:36 pm

Ptolemy_Banana wrote:http://www.economist.com/node/15060097

Don't worry. I know that. I studied Cariology. It actually has to do with tea-drinking. Cheese and chocolate also have anti-cariogenic properties. My school actually has the English Cariology school-model. So I KNOW.

I just wanted to get back at Azzy the evil. But the English still suffer from periodontitis, but is not just the English but the whole first world in general.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:48 pm

Epic fail, Buttz.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:49 pm

It's not my fault you people take me literally. Nobody takes you literally. What do I have to do to gain your privilege?

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:51 pm

seriously* Nobody takes me seriously. I've spent twelve years working on that

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:54 pm

Floss your teeth so you don't get perio.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:55 pm

Don't need to. I'm not a third world peasant

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:57 pm

Perio is the disease of your people. We hardly get that because we hardly reach old age with our teeth intact.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:58 pm

If anything, obesity and heart disease are the diseases of my people.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:59 pm

And... perio contributes to heart diseases. Start flossing you silly Brit.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:00 pm

Never flossed, never will. You're not the boss of me!

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 9:02 pm

Explains why your people get perio.

And heart diseases.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:35 am

I'm drunk and wanted to kick a dead horse, but I forgot what I wanted to say here. I know I was gonna apologize to Taboo for misunderstanding his joke. I took exception to him telling me how I should have understood his joke, but I was just being petty. Sorry Taboo.

Whatever else I wanted to say must not have been important. Fuck it.

The Yankees just took 2 of 3 from the Mets, who had been on an 11 game winning streak and have the best record in baseball. Go Yanks, fuck you Dork!

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:06 pm

BruceSmith78 wrote:I'm drunk and wanted to kick a dead horse, but I forgot what I wanted to say here. I know I was gonna apologize to Taboo for misunderstanding his joke. I took exception to him telling me how I should have understood his joke, but I was just being petty. Sorry Taboo.

Apology accepted and I in turn apologize for being snarky in my response. Misunderstandings arise easily in text-based conversation.

Gypsy-Vanner · Post by **Gypsy-Vanner** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:28 pm

I make Scottish jokes but if someone felt kind of bad about my Scottish jokes and perhaps made a comment implying as such and if they were a friend whom I care about, I'd lay off the Scottish jokes because I care about that person and it's really not up to me to define what they are allowed and not allowed to feel bad about.

I mean, it's pretty easy for me not to do it.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:33 pm

Gypsy-Vanner wrote:I make Scottish jokes but if someone felt kind of bad about my Scottish jokes and perhaps made a comment implying as such and if they were a friend whom I care about, I'd lay off the Scottish jokes because I care about that person and it's really not up to me to define what they are allowed and not allowed to feel bad about.

I mean, it's pretty easy for me not to do it.

This is all I was trying to say. Thank you, Dragon.

OurGloriousLeader · Post by **OurGloriousLeader** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:05 pm

You...make scottish jokes? (((((((((((

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:25 pm

Well then you guys don't make jokes about it.

Simple.

And Bruce if you look at this thread. Half this thread is people making fun Guatemala the second making fun of Italy. Both of which are actually my countries. I stand up when their national anthems play and all that shit. So the whole"imagine you enter into a room..." Scenario. Yeah that is me in this board all the time, everyday.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:36 pm

I've never seen you ask anyone to stop, but if you did I'd respect that request. Not that I make jokes about Guatemala or Italy to begin with. I used to crack the occasional joke about France, but I stopped when Mur said she doesn't like it, and you're right, it was simple. Required absolutely no effort on my part.

The whole taking pride in one's country is silly to me anyway. I didn't choose to be born here, I didn't earn my US citizenship, and I only live here because I was born in this country and it's convenient to stay. I feel lucky, but I don't feel ashamed or proud just because a bunch of people that lived in the same general vicinity as me rigged a system that works strongly in my favor. I pay taxes, but that's as much as I've contributed to this place, and I only do that because I don't want to be locked up.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:16 pm

I oppose nationalism because it's codename for racism and justifies statist bullshit. So there is that.

Gypsy-Vanner · Post by **Gypsy-Vanner** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:38 pm

I'm sure Mur will be glad to see how you feel about it all Liz.

CashRules · Post by **CashRules** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:54 pm

Let's have some jokes about Gypsies. I can take it. Whatcha got, bro? Come at me!

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:08 pm

I just watched some Pikeys getting married on Gypsy Weddings. The only possible reason I can see for the bride to have such an elaborate dress with so many layers is that by the time her groom has peeled it off, she may be nearing the age of consent.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:10 pm

Nationalism is not as evil as the gypsies. But almost.

They both steal from the general population under false predictions of the future and fortune readings. The only difference is that nationalism justifies the use of lethal force from the state to use your money to contribute into their bullshit. The gypsies give you a choice.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:10 pm

Asking an Englishman not to make jokes about the French is like asking American police not to shoot dead black people

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:13 pm

I meant gypsies are not as evil as nationalism. Stupid phone wont let me correct.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:17 pm

You were right first time round.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:25 pm

Hmm.. I can be ok with that.

CashRules · Post by **CashRules** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:26 pm

I've only stolen two children in my life. But I'm only 1/4 Gypsy so I have an excuse. I'm better at this than any of you.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:34 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:Asking an Englishman not to make jokes about the French is like asking American police not to shoot dead black people

I think our police would have more difficulty refraining from shooting live black people than they would dead ones. They may be racist psychopaths, but they usually understand that dead people don't care if you shoot them.

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:44 pm

CashRules wrote:I've only stolen two children in my life. But I'm only 1/4 Gypsy so I have an excuse. I'm better at this than any of you.

Judging from what I've seen from tv gypsies. You are like the anti gypsy. Besides from the child stealing you are far off.

CashRules · Post by **CashRules** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:45 pm

Just keep your cash in your front pocket if you're ever around me.