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The Pitters' Place • Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit
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Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:55 pm
by Monk
So recently, the coach of the Blue Jays said some sexist shit:
In Tuesday night's game in Florida, Jose Bautista was called for an illegal slide in the top of the ninth that robbed the Jays of two runs that would have put them in the lead.

Commenting on the call, Gibbons said after the game that "maybe we'll come out and wear dresses tomorrow. Maybe that's what everybody's looking for."
Someone over IMDB is trying to tell me that it's not actually sexist, because women are objectively than men as a group, so somehow this isn't sexist. The best counter-argument I'm thinking of is basically that even if we assume that women (in general) are weaker than men, using the statement like that in a pejorative way is still really fucking sexist. Is there another, more cogent counter-argument I could make? I feel like I'm missing something that's kinda obvious, but I'm drawing a blank here.

Oh, hilariously, he's lecturing me on what is and what isn't sexist, while calling me a "twat" and a "pussy" [gonemad]

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:06 am
by Boomer
You're not missing anything; your argument is as obvious as 2+2=4. My advice on dealing with it: accept that, like in men's professional sports, sexism on the internet isn't going away anytime soon, especially when talking with anonymous dude-bros that call you a twat/pussy.

Or, in other words, don't get your panties in a bunch. [none]

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:06 am
by Cassius Clay
This is an example of a dishonest idiot that refuses to meet you half way, and makes you do all this mental work to break shit down for him. I don't waste time on people like this anymore. They are bloody vampires. And when I do decide to continue engaging, you're damn sure I'll be insulting the shit out of them at every turn. At least get some personal amusement out of it.

If you wish to continue, I'd focus more on the implication that women aren't "tough"...rather than focusing on pure physical strength.

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:35 am
by Monk
Boomer wrote:You're not missing anything; your argument is as obvious as 2+2=4. My advice on dealing with it: accept that, like in men's professional sports, sexism on the internet isn't going away anytime soon, especially when talking with anonymous dude-bros that call you a twat/pussy.

Or, in other words, don't get your panties in a bunch. [none]
Haha, I'm actually not all that upset by this. I've argued with this guy on multiple occasions and I know his MO. While this thread was specifically directed at his response, "men are stronger than women" is a common argument to justify sexism and I've always had difficulty articulating why they're still being sexist.

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:44 am
by Monk
Cassius Clay wrote:This is an example of a dishonest idiot that refuses to meet you half way, and makes you do all this mental work to break shit down for him. I don't waste time on people like this anymore. They are bloody vampires. And when I do decide to continue engaging, you're damn sure I'll be insulting the shit out of them at every turn. At least get some personal amusement out of it.

If you wish to continue, I'd focus more on the implication that women aren't "tough"...rather than focusing on pure physical strength.
Yeah, I originally was going to title the thread "Another Dishonest Fuck" [none]. Anyway, I kinda addressed the toughness aspect.His response was, as you'd expect - studies show men have higher tolerance for pain, and they're more likely to take risks.

http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000053/nes ... #255804375

Anyway, no one ever seems to address the bit about it being a pejorative. My favorite part is how he's lectured me on what is and what is not sexism, while calling me "twat" and a "pussy" in the same thread.

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:22 pm
by Cassius Clay
You should call him a dick and a ball sack.

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:24 pm
by Cassius Clay
Or make pejorative references to masculinity and say it's science.

Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:50 pm
by Monk
Update, as summarized by OGL (the other poster goes by Kreegor):
Kreegor: ...it's not sexist. Intent is a big factor in that.

Monk: You can still be sexist/racist/bigoted/etc and not intend to be.

Kreegor: So rappers using the n word is racist?

Monk: ...?
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Re: Advice needed with dealing with sexist bullshit

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:32 pm
by Cassius Clay
But the intent is clearly to imply that women are "less than" in some way.