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There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:06 am
by Derived Absurdity
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/muha ... 74-n584776

Fuck that man this year sucks. A lot.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:58 am
by Faustus5
Fun fact: he's the only celebrity I ever had a photo taken with.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:00 pm
by BruceSmith78
Good? He was the greatest.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 3:10 pm
by Cassius Clay
I've always been sort of confused about how Ali became so universally loved(as opposed to being more polarizing). Because I'm seeing a lot of people saying "RIP Ali" who would despise a young Ali today...because he was a brash, unapologetically black, politically outspoken athlete. People can't stand the Cam Newtons, Richard Shermans, and now people are even turning on Steph Curry because he's too "arrogant" on the court. And those guys aren't even politically active/outspoken.

So, when I see someone like Marv or Erjen celebrating Ali, I can't help but roll my eyes because people like that must have some weirdly sanitized version of Ali in their heads.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:25 pm
by BruceSmith78
I think Ali was very polarizing when he was in his prime. I think a lot was forgiven or forgotten when he became a worn down old man in a wheelchair who could barely speak.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:35 pm
by Ptolemy_Banana
Ali was more controversial and received way more hatred than any of those guys in his time. But the world moves on, most of the people who hated Ali in the 60s are dead and his greatness lasts while the criticism and abuse fades out of memory. Ali was brash, unapologetically black and politically outspoken, and he was charismatic, supremely talented, and underneath all the bravado a likeable, gracious man.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:17 pm
by OurGloriousLeader
Cassius Clay wrote:I've always been sort of confused about how Ali became so universally loved(as opposed to being more polarizing). Because I'm seeing a lot of people saying "RIP Ali" who would despise a young Ali today...because he was a brash, unapologetically black, politically outspoken athlete. People can't stand the Cam Newtons, Richard Shermans, and now people are even turning on Steph Curry because he's too "arrogant" on the court. And those guys aren't even politically active/outspoken.

So, when I see someone like Marv or Erjen celebrating Ali, I can't help but roll my eyes because people like that must have some weirdly sanitized version of Ali in their heads.
They just don't know about his principled stances, or ignore it. When it's brought up they'll say the same bullshit they always do.

See this thread on front page of reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comment ... cipate_on/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Half the comments are "he said bad things about white people that's racist".

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:21 pm
by Cassius Clay
I just saw some lady say she was born in the 60s and that Ali has always been loved in America. [none]

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:32 pm
by BruceSmith78
Cassius Clay wrote:I just saw some lady say she was born in the 60s and that Ali has always been loved in America. [none]
Well then, I stand corrected. [none]

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:29 am
by Derived Absurdity
A famous outspoken Muslim black guy during the 60s who resisted the draft... I don't even want to imagine the insane amount of hatred he must have been getting.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:19 pm
by Monk
Cassius Clay wrote:I've always been sort of confused about how Ali became so universally loved(as opposed to being more polarizing). Because I'm seeing a lot of people saying "RIP Ali" who would despise a young Ali today...because he was a brash, unapologetically black, politically outspoken athlete. People can't stand the Cam Newtons, Richard Shermans, and now people are even turning on Steph Curry because he's too "arrogant" on the court. And those guys aren't even politically active/outspoken.

So, when I see someone like Marv or Erjen celebrating Ali, I can't help but roll my eyes because people like that must have some weirdly sanitized version of Ali in their heads.
Literally this.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:58 pm
by aels
I read an article today titled 'If You Don't See Blackness, You Didn't See Muhammad Ali' which... yep, that's about it.

Re: There won't be any good people left by the end of the year.

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:35 pm
by Cassius Clay