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Is this supposed to be feminism?

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So apparently this video is getting a lot of response:



The thing is, most of the negative response I've heard has been anti-feminist stuff, like "look at how stupid this feminist propaganda is!" Well I mean, it IS stupid. It's worse than that; it's a really horrific video that makes rape seem like it's no big deal. I'm sure that wasn't the intention... but still, is this actually supposed to be a feminist message? It doesn't sound feminist to me at all.
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THAT'S NOT WHAT RAPE IS

LEARN TO FUCKING FEMISNIST

INSTITUTIONAL MISOGYNY =/- VIOLATION OF SOMEONE ELSE'S BODY

THAT SHIT AIN[T TOWARD

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Why so angry?



Did someone just rape you or something?
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Gendo thats not funny
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Um, Gendo, I don't think you thought that last post out before you made it.
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The message I get from that video is that violence towards women, slut-shaming, internalised-misogyny and objectification of women all contribute to rape culture, therefore contributing towards actual instances of rape. I seriously doubt that the narrator's point is to suggest that witnessing random acts of sexism is equivalent to experiencing a form of rape. Instead the 'I' refers to all women. Women get raped because women are treated poorly by society.

There are no arbiters as to what makes something a feminist message, but if my interpretation of the message is correct then it is most certainly a feminist one. I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one. If I'm wrong about the message then it's just awful.
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Gendo...fucking hell man.
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I'll have to watch it when not at work but I think I've seen it already and think the message was not all that clear if it's the one I'm thinking of. I'll watch it at home later.
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Whoa, Gendo...3edgy5me [none]
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I apologize. I was thinking it fell into the category of "these guys know where I stand, so a joke made among friends taken in that context will be ok." Sort of like how Brandon will make racist jokes in this context only. But obviously I was wrong; I'll be more thoughtful in the future.
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Ptolemy_Banana wrote:The message I get from that video is that violence towards women, slut-shaming, internalised-misogyny and objectification of women all contribute to rape culture, therefore contributing towards actual instances of rape. I seriously doubt that the narrator's point is to suggest that witnessing random acts of sexism is equivalent to experiencing a form of rape. Instead the 'I' refers to all women. Women get raped because women are treated poorly by society.

There are no arbiters as to what makes something a feminist message, but if my interpretation of the message is correct then it is most certainly a feminist one. I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one. If I'm wrong about the message then it's just awful.
^This.

OH MY DEAR FLUFFY GOD! Never thought I'd be agreeing with you on something.
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It's cool. I know you are good people, it was jsut a bit much for me escpecially as I am drunk as fuck and you know, somene could have taken advantage of that if they wanted to and that id the fear that women live with all the time. IT'S COOL GENDO WE'RE COOL
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It cracks me up when Gendo makes edgy jokes. It's like when your granddad starts rapping, or you hear a ten year old talking smack [biggrin]
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Dr_Liszt wrote:
Ptolemy_Banana wrote:The message I get from that video is that violence towards women, slut-shaming, internalised-misogyny and objectification of women all contribute to rape culture, therefore contributing towards actual instances of rape. I seriously doubt that the narrator's point is to suggest that witnessing random acts of sexism is equivalent to experiencing a form of rape. Instead the 'I' refers to all women. Women get raped because women are treated poorly by society.

There are no arbiters as to what makes something a feminist message, but if my interpretation of the message is correct then it is most certainly a feminist one. I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one. If I'm wrong about the message then it's just awful.
^This.

OH MY DEAR FLUFFY GOD! Never thought I'd be agreeing with you on something.

it's badly expressed. You can point out that things are a fascet of rape culture without usinfg language that dimiminishes the experience sof real rape survivors.
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Blade Azaezel wrote:It cracks me up when Gendo makes edgy jokes. It's like when your granddad starts rapping, or you hear a ten year old talking smack [biggrin]
that is no way ot talk about my grandpa Rappy G
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He wrote 'My Name Is: Wait, What Is My Name? Why Did I Come In Here? Are Those My Glasses'
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You just don't even remember 6 or so years ago... up until that time, I was constantly making sexual jokes towards all the ladies here.
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Yeah. I can see that.
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Gendo wrote:You just don't even remember 6 or so years ago... up until that time, I was constantly making sexual jokes towards all the ladies here.
I remember that, you dog.
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Like a dirty old man at a hen night
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I don't make racist jokes. It's just that your post seemed a little over the top.
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aels wrote:
Dr_Liszt wrote:
Ptolemy_Banana wrote:The message I get from that video is that violence towards women, slut-shaming, internalised-misogyny and objectification of women all contribute to rape culture, therefore contributing towards actual instances of rape. I seriously doubt that the narrator's point is to suggest that witnessing random acts of sexism is equivalent to experiencing a form of rape. Instead the 'I' refers to all women. Women get raped because women are treated poorly by society.

There are no arbiters as to what makes something a feminist message, but if my interpretation of the message is correct then it is most certainly a feminist one. I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one. If I'm wrong about the message then it's just awful.
^This.

OH MY DEAR FLUFFY GOD! Never thought I'd be agreeing with you on something.

it's badly expressed. You can point out that things are a fascet of rape culture without usinfg language that dimiminishes the experience sof real rape survivors.
Indeed. "I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one" was my I'm-being-serious-now-and-have-trousers-on-and-everything way of saying "Bloody Nora that's badly expressed".
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CashRules wrote:I don't make racist jokes. It's just that your post seemed a little over the top.
It was clearly more over the top than I'd realized. But you totally do make racist jokes, at least about Latinos. But there's context to it since we know that you aren't racist.
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No.
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Dr_Liszt wrote:
Ptolemy_Banana wrote:The message I get from that video is that violence towards women, slut-shaming, internalised-misogyny and objectification of women all contribute to rape culture, therefore contributing towards actual instances of rape. I seriously doubt that the narrator's point is to suggest that witnessing random acts of sexism is equivalent to experiencing a form of rape. Instead the 'I' refers to all women. Women get raped because women are treated poorly by society.

There are no arbiters as to what makes something a feminist message, but if my interpretation of the message is correct then it is most certainly a feminist one. I'm not sure whether it's a well expressed one. If I'm wrong about the message then it's just awful.
^This.

OH MY DEAR FLUFFY GOD! Never thought I'd be agreeing with you on something.
Well, just don't make a habit of it.
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CashRules wrote:No.
Can you explain how jokes about making your nieces sleep in the barn when it rains because Latinos smell bad doesn't qualify?
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No.
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Thanks.
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I actually decided to stop doing that. It was getting old, I have an even younger Latino now who isn't old enough to comprehend the idea of a joke and...Caly got on my case about it. [none]
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Aw man, the only woman who is supposed to whip you is me.
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I don't quite get it, because over here I don't feel that as racist. But I don't know how I'd feel about it if I lived in the wonderful culture of equity from the U.S. So to be honest, I don't know.
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Yeah, and she hurt my feelings.
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CashRules wrote:Yeah, and she hurt my feelings.
Good.
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Dr_Liszt wrote:I don't quite get it, because over here I don't feel that as racist. But I don't know how I'd feel about it if I lived in the wonderful culture of equity from the U.S. So to be honest, I don't know.
When the younger Latino is also black, it's best I be real careful with the jokes. She'll hear enough from assholes, she doesn't need to hear it from the guy who's supposed to be helping take care of her and have to try to figure out in her young mind exactly what is going on.
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Is just that Michael asked me if it was racist and I didn't know what to tell him.

I'm going to go with Azz-hole's theory in that Gendo is nice and pure, therefore any attempt of a badass joke comes off as "stfu Gendo." [none]

There's nothing wrong with being nice and pure, Gendo. Jesus would approve.
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Gendo wrote:You just don't even remember 6 or so years ago... up until that time, I was constantly making sexual jokes towards all the ladies here.
Well, I mean....you were still a virgin then.
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