So Stark made a joke about reinstating prima not a if he lifted Thor's hammer.
Offensive rape joke? In-character doucheyness? Both?
And what about Black being barren. Sexism or no?
Disney Fight #6: Insensitive or In Charcter (spoilers for AoU )
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Re: Disney Fight #6: Insensitive or In Charcter (spoilers for AoU )
Does Disney have anything to do with AoU?
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Re: Disney Fight #6: Insensitive or In Charcter (spoilers for AoU )
Disney owns the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so yes?Gendo wrote:Does Disney have anything to do with AoU?
There were some negative connotations around Black Widow's revelation that she's barren, so I could certainly see the sexism there, although I didn't notice it at the time because I'm a privileged man. I don't think she called herself a monster cuz she's barren though, I think she called herself a monster cuz she's a trained assassin.
I also missed the rape culture aspect of Stark's comment (again, male privilege, you should try it sometime), but I can see that being offensive too. At the time I just thought it was a bizarre thing to say and it might be a reference that went over my head.
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This.BruceSmith78 wrote:Disney owns the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so yes?Gendo wrote:Does Disney have anything to do with AoU?
Re: Disney Fight #6: Insensitive or In Charcter (spoilers for AoU )
Ah, didn't know that.BruceSmith78 wrote:Disney owns the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so yes?Gendo wrote:Does Disney have anything to do with AoU?
The way I interpreted it was that she felt she was a monster because of her willingness to do that to herself in exchange for the life she would live. So not a monster for being barren, or a monster for being an assassin, but a monster for being willing to become barren in order to become an assassin.There was some negative connotations around Black Widow's revelation that she's barren, so I could certainly see the sexism there, although I didn't notice it at the time because I'm a privileged man. I don't think she called herself a monster cuz she's barren though, I think she called herself a monster cuz she's a trained assassin.
I didn't miss that one. Maybe because I just watched Braveheart again a couple weeks ago. But it definitely registered as uncomfortable to me.I also missed the rape culture aspect of Stark's comment (again, male privilege, you should try it sometime), but I can see that being offensive too. At the time I just thought it was a bizarre thing to say and it might be a reference that went over my head.
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I knew what it meant because I remember it from Braveheart, but in my mind I was just like, "what a weird thing to say."
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It's odd because to be honest, I think more people are reacting more to the barren thing but I think the prima nocte comment is more offensive.
I guess I thought the context of her being a mosnter wasn't about being barren, but that she had killed innocent people and her lack of emotional connections (including potential ones) made her more efficient at it.
I guess I thought the context of her being a mosnter wasn't about being barren, but that she had killed innocent people and her lack of emotional connections (including potential ones) made her more efficient at it.