You guys are boring

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:10 pm

Trufax. Sorry.

Okay, so I just thought of something. I want to get a read on some of you. I don't know if this is stupid or not, but whatever. Don't worry, it's voluntary. Basically I'm just going to list a bunch of random words and y'all can decide whether you have a positive or negative reaction to them. Like, whether a certain word has positive or negative connotations to you. The point is that it has to be an intuitive gut feeling, an immediate unconscious reflex, to test what you think on certain things, so you can't think about them too much. Or, like, at all. Like, when you hear the word empty of context, if your first reaction is "ugh" or "yay!" before you consciously think about it.

So, your choices are: positive, negative, or neutral. That's all. THOSE ARE THE RULES. Or you can just skip some. Or just not do it at all and make fun of me. Whatever. But at least I'M TRYING.

Okay, so, making these all up off the top of my head:

- activist

- feminist

- socialism

- Obama

- riots

- Batman

- Christopher Nolan

- liberal

- teenagers

- intellectual

- Disney

- MDMA

- hippies

- Johnny Depp

- nerd

- animal rights

- masculine

- masturbation

- Twilight

- Israel

- psychiatrist

- religion

- America

- evolution

- clowns

- Muslims

- Germany

- Japan

... next time I'm probably gonna think up of some more interesting words. I just rattled these off.

Post by **OpiateOfTheMasses** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:36 pm

I'll play:

- activist - Neutral

- feminist - Negative

- socialism - Neutral

- Obama - Neutral

- riots - Negative

- Batman - Positive

- Christopher Nolan - Find myself trying to remember who "Christopher Nolan" is for 2 seconds and then coming to the conclusion that I don't care.

- liberal - Positive

- teenagers - Neutral

- intellectual - Positive

- Disney - Negative

- MDMA - Negative

- hippies - Negative

- Johnny Depp - Neutral

- nerd - Positive

- animal rights - Neutral

- masculine - Neutral

- masturbation - Neutral

- Twilight - Negative

- Israel - Neutral

- psychiatrist - Neutral

- religion - Negative

- America - Neutral

- evolution - Positive

- clowns - Negative

- Muslims - Neutral

- Germany - Positive

- Japan - Positive

Whitey · Post by **Whitey** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:17 pm

- activist - Neutral

- feminist - Positive

- socialism - Neutral

- Obama - Positive

- riots - Negative

- Batman - Positive

- Christopher Nolan - Positive

- liberal - Positive

- teenagers - Negative

- intellectual - Neutral

- Disney - Positive

- MDMA - Negative

- hippies - Negative

- Johnny Depp - Neutral

- nerd - Neutral

- animal rights - Neutral

- masculine - Positive

- masturbation - Positive

- Twilight - Negative

- Israel - Negative

- psychiatrist - Neutral

- religion - Negative

- America - Neutral

- evolution - Positive

- clowns - Negative

- Muslims - Neutral

- Germany - Positive

- Japan - Neutral

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:15 pm

This didn't work for me because I can't react to a word without thinking about it. I tried to empty my head and read the words and I had to keep re-reading them because I didn't know what I was reading.

Post by **thesalmonofdoubt** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 12:19 am

Ok - I'll give it a shot on a visceral level but will add that much like Bruce, I find it hard to react to any word with any emotion without specific context and so - thinking thru the context..

- activist Neutral

- feminist Neutral

- socialism Neutral

- Obama Positive

- riots Negative

- Batman Positive

- Christopher Nolan positive

- liberal positive

- teenagers Neutral

- intellectual Positive

- Disney Neutral

- MDMA Positive

- hippies Negative

- Johnny Depp Positive

- nerd Neutral

- animal rights Neutral

- masculine Positive

- masturbation Positive

- Twilight Negative

- Israel Negative

- psychiatrist Neutral

- religion Negative

- America Negative

- evolution Positive

- clowns Neutral

- Muslims Negative

- Germany Neutral

- Japan Neutral

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:52 am

- activist ugh

- feminist neutral

- socialism neutral

- Obama neutral

- riots slightly positive

- Batman positive

- Christopher Nolan slightly positive

- liberal neutral

- teenagers neutral

- intellectual neutral

- Disney neutral

- MDMA slightly negative

- hippies slightly negative

- Johnny Depp positive

- nerd neutral

- animal rights um, neutral?

- masculine neutral

- masturbation neutral

- Twilight negative

- Israel negative

- psychiatrist neutral

- religion positive

- America neutral

- evolution neutral

- clowns neutral

- Muslims positive

- Germany neutral

- Japan slightly positive

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:28 am

Riots are nothing but misdirected hatred towards the government. Necessary, yes and I do support them. But is nothing but misdirection.

Had to comment on this because you silly first worlders equate rioting to revolution. That's not how it works.

Learn about Marx.

Blade Azaezel · Post by **Blade Azaezel** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:08 am

If anything, first worlders probably equate rioting to crime and vandalism, not revolution. After the London riots a few years ago, I certainly do. Marx can go suck a dick

Post by **thesalmonofdoubt** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:11 am

Blade Azaezel wrote:If anything, first worlders probably equate rioting to crime and vandalism, not revolution. After the London riots a few years ago, I certainly do. Marx can go suck a dick

Something like this - I certainly don't associate riots with revolution.

The last riots we had here were the Cronulla race riots - that had absolutely nothing to do with the government or revolution

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:31 am

Yeah we don't think riots are revolutions 'round here.

Anyway I'm gonna do my own test.

activist - positive

feminist - positive

socialism - positive

Obama - negative

riots - positive

Batman - positive

Christopher Nolan - negative

liberal - negative

teenagers - positive

intellectual - negative

Disney - neutral

MDMA - positive

hippies - positive

Johnny Depp - neutral

nerd - neutral

animal rights - positive

masculine - negative

masturbation - negative

Twilight - negative

Israel - negative

psychiatrist - positive

religion - negative

America - negative

evolution - negative

clowns - negative

Muslims - positive

Germany - positive

Japan - negative

Wow I chose some stupid words.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:55 am

I'll try it the only way I can, which is by putting at least some thought into it

- activist - Probably good, but also sounds a little like a try-hard and I'm too lazy for that shit, so meh

- feminist - this is good

- socialism - also good

- Obama - fuck politicians with a rusty spoon

- riots - usually not a good thing

- Batman - he's cool

- Christopher Nolan - I like most of his stuff

- liberal - meh, fuck politics

- teenagers - they're cool

- intellectual - smart people are good

- Disney - good movies, but huge corporations, especially media corporations, can suck a dick

- MDMA - Dafuq is that?

- hippies - they're alright

- Johnny Depp - most of his movies are shit, but he's in a few really good ones that redeem him

- nerd - meh

- animal rights - more meh

- masculine - not crazy about this word

- masturbation - good times, but sometimes leaves me ashamed of myself

- Twilight - dogshit

- Israel - culos

- psychiatrist - bullshit

- religion - more bullshit

- America - we're dicks, but it's not a bad place to live

- evolution - meh

- clowns - lame

- Muslims - they're just people

- Germany - don't give much of a shit about this place

- Japan - these guys seem pretty chill and they make some cool shit, even if they're a little weird sometimes

Dr_Liszt · Post by **Dr_Liszt** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 2:39 pm

Blade Azaezel wrote:If anything, first worlders probably equate rioting to crime and vandalism, not revolution. After the London riots a few years ago, I certainly do. Marx can go suck a dick

Marx would agree with you dum dum.

But I was thinking more about the recent U.S riot since those were against the system. I don't know about the UK and the ones at Cornulla were just pathetic.

Unvoiced_Apollo · Post by **Unvoiced_Apollo** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:14 pm

- activist - neutral

- feminist - neutral

- socialism - neutral

- Obama - neutral

- riots - negative

- Batman - positive

- Christopher Nolan - neutral

- liberal - neutral

- teenagers - negative

- intellectual - neutral

- Disney - neutral (bet you're all surprised on this one!)

- MDMA - have no idea what this is.

- hippies - negative

- Johnny Depp - negative

- nerd - positive

- animal rights - neutral

- masculine - neutral

- masturbation - neutral

- Twilight - negative

- Israel - neutral

- psychiatrist - positive

- religion - neutral

- America - neutral

- evolution - positive

- clowns - neutral

- Muslims - neutral

- Germany - neutral

- Japan - positive

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:12 pm

Unvoiced_Apollo wrote:- MDMA - have no idea what this is.

Nearly synonymous with ecstasy, the drug.

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:41 pm

Also with ecstasy, the feeling.

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:58 pm

Kids these days.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:02 pm

So did you learn anything from this survey?

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:11 pm

I learned you guys don't seem to like hippies.

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:16 pm

Derived Absurdity wrote:I learned you guys don't seem to like hippies.

That's another one that requires context. You've got the drum circle/music festival/giggling stoner hippies who believe in nothing, and you've got critically thinking people who form protests and things that are sometimes worthwhile who have been called "hippies". Now, the second one isn't much better than the first, but not as bad. I tend to see hippies like Cartman does, in general, but there are decent hippies out there.

Unvoiced_Apollo · Post by **Unvoiced_Apollo** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:25 pm

sikax wrote: I tend to see hippies like Cartman does

This.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:32 pm

I think of hippies as lazy, easy-going people who like to use drugs. I can relate to that, which is why I said they're alright. They can be annoying sometimes too, though.

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:37 pm

^ that's basically my view

phe_de · Post by **phe_de** » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:27 pm

- activist
neutral

- feminist
positive

- socialism
neutral

- Obama
neutral

- riots
negative

- Batman
neutral

- Christopher Nolan
neutral

- liberal
neutral

- teenagers
neutral

- intellectual
positive

- Disney
positive

- hippies
neutral

- Johnny Depp
neutral

- nerd
positive

- animal rights
neutral

- masculine
neutral

- masturbation
positive

- Twilight
neutral

- Israel
neutral

- psychiatrist
neutral

- religion
neutral

- America
neutral

- evolution
neutral

- clowns
neutral

- Muslims
neutral

- Germany
positive

- Japan
positive

Anakin McFly · Post by **Anakin McFly** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:28 am

- activist: simultaneously negative and positive
- feminist: negative
- socialism: neutral
- Obama: positive
- riots: negative
- Batman: neutral
- Christopher Nolan: neutral
- liberal: positive
- teenagers: negative
- intellectual: positive
- Disney: neutral
- MDMA: negative
- hippies: negative
- Johnny Depp: neutral
- nerd: neutral
- animal rights: negative
- masculine: positive
- masturbation: negative
- Twilight: negative
- Israel: neutral
- psychiatrist: negative
- religion: negative
- America: negative
- evolution: negative
- clowns: neutral
- Muslims: neutral
- Germany: negative
- Japan: positive

If it changes anything, most of the negative results are so because they sound like the beginning of frustrating internet debates.

Post by **thesalmonofdoubt** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:44 am

Dr_Liszt wrote:
Blade Azaezel wrote:If anything, first worlders probably equate rioting to crime and vandalism, not revolution. After the London riots a few years ago, I certainly do. Marx can go suck a dick
Marx would agree with you dum dum.

But I was thinking more about the recent U.S riot since those were against the system. I don't know about the UK and the ones at Cornulla were just pathetic.

Sure they were, but that wasn't the actual point being made.

If it changes anything, most of the negative results are so because they sound like the beginning of frustrating internet debates.

I'm curious as to why people view masturbation as anything less than amazingly positive - seems sexually unhealthy to me

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:14 am

Because when I hear the word the first thing I picture is some guy masturbating and that's gross. So I feel negative.

It's aesthetically disgusting and that's what I viscerally feel first.

Post by **thesalmonofdoubt** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 2:32 am

Derived Absurdity wrote:Because when I hear the word the first thing I picture is some guy masturbating and that's gross. So I feel negative.

It's aesthetically disgusting and that's what I viscerally feel first.

Fair enuff - I guess my opinion on its visual appeal depends largely on who's doing the masturbating, but my immediate reaction to the word itself is more linked to how I feel about masturbating as a human thing rather than a visual thing.

So - overwhelmingly positive.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:54 pm

- activist -negative

- feminist -positive

- socialism -positive

- Obama -negative

- riots -negative

- Batman -positive

- Christopher Nolan -positive

- liberal -neutral

- teenagers -neutral

- intellectual -negative

- Disney -neutral

- MDMA -positive

- hippies -positive

- Johnny Depp -positive

- nerd -positive

- animal rights -negative

- masculine -positive

- masturbation -positive

- Twilight -neutral

- Israel -neutral

- psychiatrist -positive

- religion -negative

- America -positive

- evolution -positive

- clowns -negative

- Muslims -neutral

- Germany -neutral

- Japan -neutral

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:04 pm

OpiateOfTheMasses wrote:- religion - Negative

Whitey wrote:- religion - Negative

thesalmonofdoubt wrote:- religion Negative

Derived Absurdity wrote:religion - negative.

BruceSmith78 wrote:- religion - more bullshit

Anakin McFly wrote:- religion: negative

Boomer wrote:- religion -negative

Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

For real though, so much negativity toward religion. I mean I knew most of the Dorkestra were atheists, but god damn.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:12 pm

I'm actually not an atheist, I just think organized religion is and has been used for far more bad than good.

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:18 pm

There's a lot of good about religion, but it's mostly bad.

Y'all motherfuckers need some MDMA, mostly. And hippies.

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:28 pm

Ecstasy is for children. Last time I did it I was in high school and it was boring.

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:45 pm

religion is for children

Derived Absurdity · Post by **Derived Absurdity** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:55 pm

also MDMA =/= ecstasy

also, if ecstasy was boring, wow were you doing it wrong

Post by **OpiateOfTheMasses** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:14 pm

sikax wrote:
OpiateOfTheMasses wrote:- religion - Negative

Whitey wrote:- religion - Negative

thesalmonofdoubt wrote:- religion Negative

Derived Absurdity wrote:religion - negative.

BruceSmith78 wrote:- religion - more bullshit

Anakin McFly wrote:- religion: negative

Boomer wrote:- religion -negative
Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

For real though, so much negativity toward religion. I mean I knew most of the Dorkestra were atheists, but god damn.

Or religion needs better PR?

Whitey · Post by **Whitey** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:24 pm

sikax wrote:
OpiateOfTheMasses wrote:- religion - Negative

Whitey wrote:- religion - Negative

thesalmonofdoubt wrote:- religion Negative

Derived Absurdity wrote:religion - negative.

BruceSmith78 wrote:- religion - more bullshit

Anakin McFly wrote:- religion: negative

Boomer wrote:- religion -negative
Y'all motherfuckers need Jesus.

For real though, so much negativity toward religion. I mean I knew most of the Dorkestra were atheists, but god damn.

I don't hate it or anything, I just don't think it's a good thing.

BruceSmith78 · Post by **BruceSmith78** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:30 pm

I didn't say it was negative, just that it was bullshit.

Post by **thesalmonofdoubt** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:25 am

I'm firmly in the "Religion is overwhelmingly negative" camp even if it does have some benefits.

Given this is all context neutral - my impression of religion is almost exclusively the Abrahamic faiths - not the more mediative eastern faiths that I have little knowledge of or experience of.
Anything that delivers a static - universal set of moral standards based on Authority over reason and determines as a default that all people are so intrinsically disordered that they deserve eternal punishment - cannot be a good thing. More than that, the whole thing is an argument from authority and that authority is entirely fabricated .. so .. yep, unapologetically negative

sikax · Post by **sikax** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:34 am

Derived Absurdity wrote:also MDMA =/= ecstasy

also, if ecstasy was boring, wow were you doing it wrong

I know it isn't the same thing, but if you got ecstasy without MDMA in it, wow were you doing it wrong.

Ptolemy_Banana · Post by **Ptolemy_Banana** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:19 pm

- activist - positive

- feminist - positive

- socialism - positive

- Obama - neutral

- riots - neutral

- Batman - neutral

- Christopher Nolan - positive

- liberal - positive

- teenagers - neutral

- intellectual - positive

- Disney - neutral

- MDMA - positive

- hippies - negative

- Johnny Depp - positive

- nerd - positive

- animal rights - positive

- masculine - positive

- masturbation - positive

- Twilight - negative

- Israel - negative

- psychiatrist - neutral

- religion - negative

- America - neutral

- evolution - positive

- clowns - negative

- Muslims - neutral

- Germany - positive

- Japan - positive